Is There Anything Good in Rap-Rock
Aerosmith did that song with Run-DMC, Anthrax did a few, 311 made it a little different and more groove based (check out a video interview with them here)- and then Limp Bizkit dropped the standard with horrible songs starting a trend of a lot of mediocre rap-rock bands hitting the mainstream.
What ever happened to Limp Bizkit anyway? I researched this a little, and it turns out they are still around. They has that weird guy guitarist quit on them, taking away a lot of their energy (and probably anything remarkable at all about them). They eventually recovered and hired a new guitarist. There is where all the info gets fuzzy, because apparently their guitarist came back in 2003 only to quit again this year. Thats when I realized again that I dont care, and would be glad to not hear from this band ever again.
Korn was called rap-rock, but I just dont see it. They had influences from rap obviously - but the vocals make them simply a nu-metal band. I would say the same for slipknot. But maybe you could really credit that mid/late 90s influx to them?
Rage Against the Machine debuted their first album in 1992, but they didnt have major success till their second album released in 1996, right around the time of this trend. They were certainly talented musicians, and mixed a lot of different?genres.?Linkin Park, Kid Rock, and POD are still around after coming into the limelight around the same time. But I think you would agree that they have all moved away from their original sound.
Bloodhound Gang! There is a group I can enjoy - they didnt even come close to taking themselves seriously, and the music was decent. Maybe in a similar vein is Mindless Self Indulgence - but really, I doubt you could count them as RapRock.
But with all these groups I have mentioned, have any of them topped or equaled the quality of this fusion as Anthrax (or aerosmith) did? Why not? Maybe they are just DIFFERENT, and not better or worse? Maybe since it was a huge market in the 90s as compared to the 80s, too many labels were influencing the types of songs released, making them a lot more mainstream than the older stuff?
They’re all valid questions and I have no idea the real answer. This may not be the huge trend now, but these bands are still around - and still making music. Where are the bands that are doing this right?
I havent found them. I bet they are out there - if you know any - do share! I dont HATE the genre, its just filled with a bit too much crap sometimes.
Tags: 311, Aerosmith, Anthrax, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Rage Against the Machine, Rap, rapcore, Raprock, rock, Run DMC
July 6th, 2006 at 4:18pm
dirt off you shoulders(feat. Jay-Z and linkin park) its a mix of linkin parks -Crawling- and Jay-Z’s -Dirt Off Your Shoulders- with a hint of origanality
July 6th, 2006 at 4:20pm
check out insolence from san jose, they are signed to subnoize records and were on mavrick but this is my friends band they have been doing the rock rap thing since b4 linkin park could walk .
July 6th, 2006 at 4:25pm
You should check out Far From Well form chicago the singer is one of the fastest rappers in a metal band you can check them on myspace myspace.com/farfromwell
July 6th, 2006 at 4:41pm
Bionic Jive is a great band to list as rap/rock and I would have to also list Pillar and Pax 217 in this group as well.
July 6th, 2006 at 5:05pm
I agree with Michael, Jay Z with Linkin Park, its pretty lush
July 6th, 2006 at 5:22pm
I think the closest you’ll find to quality in rap-rock type bands is in the old school Brooklyn hardcore bands (i.e. Biohazard) and those bands who operate in that style but may not necessarily come from Brooklyn (i.e. Furious Styles from Seattle).
I agree with your assessment in that I am also confused with why Korn is lumped in with the rap rock groups. Sure they have the whole self proclaimed “we made metal groove” thing going in their music, but the only times they actually delve into actual rap-rock seems to be when they have a guest on board to do the rapping in a song (i.e. Nas, Ice Cube, Fred Durst).
One thing that kind of urks me is it seems that whenever there is a rap-rock debate, never is arguably the greatest rap-rock song brought up: “Epic” by Faith no more. And if you ask me Faith No More were the true originators of making metal groove long before Korn even existed.
July 6th, 2006 at 5:27pm
I can not believe I forgot about Faith No More. You are right, not only were they doing that?long before a lot of bands - but they did it WELL.
July 6th, 2006 at 7:43pm
ANTHRAX BY FAR!!!
WELL FOR ME AT LEAST
WATEV FLOATS YA BOAT.
July 6th, 2006 at 7:57pm
Suicidal Tendancies if they’re still around. Body Count was great but too ahead of their time.
July 6th, 2006 at 8:20pm
Slipknot performed a song called Spit It Out, that has some history that it’s rap rock.
July 7th, 2006 at 6:44pm
DOWNSET
July 10th, 2006 at 11:46pm
i would agree with fiorello about faith no more. i’ve been saying that they don’t get half the credit they deserve for years now. i would like to suggest a band called candiria. they not only blend hip hop and heavy metal, but also fusion jazz and punk.
July 12th, 2006 at 5:44pm
Skindred
The band’s first album, Babylon, came out in 2005. They are a mix of reggae, rap, metal, and punk.
I think they are from Britain.
This is probably the best quality of rap-metal in this century that you are going to find.
July 15th, 2006 at 1:00am
System of a down is supposed to release an album with Wu-yang clan
July 18th, 2006 at 9:33am
Senser or The Testicles - neither fall into both categorys constantly and Senser have a bit extra on the electronic side of things, The Testicles a hardcore thrash blast, both have a deck or 2…. I’d hardly call them Rap or Rock but bollox check ‘em.
oh Public Enemy’s track on New World Odour ‘The who the when the why the what’ is the chorus - thats good.
July 20th, 2006 at 6:05pm
[...] Last week I posted a question “Is there anything good is Rap Rock?“. I got a lot of comments for some bands to check out, and a lot of them actually weren’t that bad. (You’re going to have to go to the post and read the comments yourself!!) [...]
August 18th, 2007 at 6:14pm
[...] year, I asked If there is any good in rap-rock . A few readers were quick to point out that I forgot about Faith No More in my list of decent [...]
August 29th, 2007 at 7:19pm
I honestly thing that no one was able to recreate the coolness of the anthrax/PE or the Aerosmith/run DMC sound is because they let the rock group do the rock and the rap group do the rap.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:51pm
rap rock=cRap
November 15th, 2007 at 11:49am
Depending on what you’re into… Check out(Hed)p.e.
November 18th, 2007 at 11:47pm
hip-hop and rock can co-exist, I make beats w/ a friend of my mine.
the best crossover shit I like now is Necro.
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:21am
I think 311 did a good job mixing rock and rap. They also mixed other styles with it too. There new stuff is kind of going away from rock rap but the influence is still there. I can’t think of any other rap rock band that is better then them
December 10th, 2007 at 9:39pm
I was told there are some Nine Inch Nails remixes floating around out there, I’ve yet to find them.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:08pm
Q:Is there anything good in rap rock?
A: NO.
Then again, nothing related to rap was ever good.